Nicely put.

This is the reason I went with Mastodon in 2022 and still not regretting it.

This neatly sums up why, every time a BS fan was talking about federation, I just didn't get it. Now I understand they were only pretending to talk about federation, or perhaps worse, talk about some twisted definition of 'federation'. That's why I simply didn't understand them. They were talking about something else entirely, while claiming "federation" at the same time.

Gaslighting by design?

Blacksky has its own AppView and a Bluesky-independent way of unlocking users who have been blocked by Bluesky, for example.
A person can host a PDS on a server of their choice, including their own, and connect to the service they prefer.

bsky.app/profile/rude1.blacksk…

bsky.app/profile/rude1.blacksk…

bsky.app/profile/rude1.blacksk…

I can also connect to At Proto via Blacksky

blacksky.community/profile/did…

Well, the problem is that vast majority of people don't care about this.

*But*, one lesson from the forkiverse should be, this is still a great selling point for community organizers. And they can bring over their people.

This is why I’m on the Fediverse, bridging with BlueSky. Because I’d be happy to federate with them, if they’d open up as standard.

But they don’t. They want to keep to themselves unless someone explicitly says they want to bridge to Fediverse.

That’s the reason I don’t really trust BlueSky.

Did you see the European PDS, EuroSky?

That's crazy. I wonder why they are trying so hard to look decentralized, when under the hood they really aren't.

If they truly cared about decentralization, they would have implemented the already existing ActivityPub it became a W3C recommended standard in 2018...

Something fishy about bluesky. Thanks for sharing, I didn't know about this!

I have too many corrections on this one.
Pds a year ago when i got to 100 accounts I had to get in contact with someone on the team, now is higher

The relay and app view: have you seen appviewlite? Its quite light

Regarding production ready alternatives: blacksky. Seriously. Blacksky

The idea is different. Fedi is trains and bsky are trucks. Knowing about one doesn’t means you know the other. The architecture is too different.

And a lot of the times the question is “wait you dont get railed i mean use rails?”

If bsky llc vanished tomorrow it would be fine. Seriously

Its a bit late here but if you want we can keep this conversation later in a better medium than this one, this one will make both of us look like confrontational pricks

Bluesky is not to be trusted. It is just Twitter, but delayed.

#Decentralization #SelfHosting #SelfHosted #Mastodon #Fediverse #Bluesky #Servers

Well, I recently discovered that Bluesky got one step closer to decentralization:
It is now possible to set up DIDs without depending on Bluesky's services. If you look into the AT spec, you will find that there are now two types of DIDs that can be used for Bluesky: did:plc (which can only be issued by Bluesky) and did:web which essentially consist of a domain name. So an AT user of johndoe.example.com could have a DID of did:web:johndoe.example.com.

But now there are at

(1/3) @rolle #Bluesky

Please let your words get to @mmasnick ’s ears. A person that I admire, and have probably been banned by, for harping this point. As a non-sycophant, I just see him addicted to the numbers game, just like I saw others fall, when Twitter fell. It’s an addiction, and it demands an intervention. Individual, intelligent human minds can break the dopamine abuse cycle, with our help.

Follower count is not the dragon you need to be chasing, friends. Bluesky is owned, and it will take you down, as low as its billionaires and advertisers can gaslight you.

Only you can make the choice to stop.

Follower count is a drug. The algorithm that makes you think your influence is measured in a number, is the dopamine rush. It is designed so that you will defend it, argue for it, and never want to let it go.

It is gross, and it is making your teeth rot, when those of us who like you, see you.

Sorry to be so dramatic, but this is the current state of things, in analogy. 🤷🏼‍♂️

The problem with self hosting and mastodon is that only a handful of tech people actually care to host their own. Hosting an instance starts to cost serious money if you have a lot of users.

I think the best solution would be a torrent based solution that can run entirely in a browser. I've started working on such a client, but development is stale right now for resources, time and knowledge.

I've successfully synced profiles from LAN to a mobile on cellular network, so the concept should work.

If anyone wants to take a look, fork or join, let me know:

github.com/larsnygard/SnartNet

Blacksky has been runing a relay for months and are preparing an appview (test on this moment)

Appview lite is a simple small app view easy to run locally too

And yes the problem theoretically is big O with the number of appviews.

But here is the thing, not every user needs a full appview with all stuff

In that case mastodon is not decentralised because you don’t have a copy of all messages, too expensive.

Untagging everyone, this has hell thread potential

I did on release week i know that for sure. Didn’t redo a fuil read appoogies.

But the thing is, the problems of big O only apply for needing the whole network. Wich not everyone needs

@tokyo_0 @gabboman @cwebber

:+1: I think this is a promising line of thinking: how does atproto handle partitions and split brain situations? It's actually a feature when there's a (hierarchy of) local subnetwork(s) that can stay functional even when the network at large is partitioned. It's better yet if the synchronezation can be restored after the fact. Better still when the older or remote messages can be pruned or fetched lazily. Otherwise it's the usenet failure?