@eviltofu unfortunately IRC does not suffice for work-like use cases. It’s basically impossible to demand normal users do shit like maintain a shell server to get notifications from when they’re offline.

I wish it were not true, but…. It could not meet the standards in 2010, and those standards have only gotten higher

That's not a bad idea @kaffeeringe. Talk serves mostly the chat/IM/video call needs. Maybe combined with a discussion forums app. You'll also get the all the benefits from Nextcloud like files hosting and sharing, calendar, address book and anything else you might want.

@skinnylatte

I would not use mattermost, they began enshittifying the project, so they can't be trusted not to do more things like this: github.com/mattermost/mattermo…

I never used Zulip, so I don't have an opinion on it. If I had to setup something similar, I'd try it. (2/2)